Side-by-side on the specs that matter, with category winners and an opinionated take to help you decide.
The Forerunner 245 Music trades offline media for a more current sensor suite and interface in the Forerunner 165.
Pick the Forerunner 245 Music if you travel to remote areas and need to run with music without your phone.
Pick the Forerunner 165 if you prioritize a modern, responsive watch with updated navigation for exploring new cities.
Ask anything — we'll answer with Forerunner 245 Music and Garmin Forerunner 165 in mind for travel use.
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