Side-by-side on the specs that matter, with category winners and an opinionated take to help you decide.
The choice is between onboard music storage for phone-free runs or a slightly lower upfront cost.
Pick Forerunner 165 Music if you want to leave your phone behind and stream or store music directly on the watch.
Pick Garmin Forerunner 165 if you always run with your phone and prefer to save money on the core running features.
Ask anything — we'll answer with Forerunner 165 Music and Garmin Forerunner 165 in mind for pro use.
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